So, Plum Tree App is gone, and I am back to looking for a family tree solution for Sims. I briefly looked back at Family Echo, but then was reminded of what a godawful mess it made of my tree, and I don't want to go back. It needs to be something that can handle poly relationships, adoption, children with only one parent, or with a different set of biological parents versus actual parents in an attractive and non-confusing-looking way, and Plum Tree App was the only family tree software I ever found that could do that. Ideally it would be online, and bonus if you can upload GEDCOM or another similar file format and/or it has a free API, but I can deal with an offline app if needs be.

Does anyone have anything that works well for them?

I haven't tried it yet but I've been looking at My Family Tree. Yellow Llama Co has a tutorial about how they use it to track their Sims (S4 but the principle is the same) and it does allow for complex and unusual families. According to the web site it also used GED files.


Yellow Llama Co's info is here

The Family Tree website is here

Any good family tree software should be easily adaptable to Simming. I've experimented with several, and use Rootsmagic (currently on version 8) for serious genealogical work. But I have also used Family Tree Maker (legacy version, I think 6) and a couple of others.

I tried this out, and it seems to do the trick. I can have people with multiple current partners, children with more than two parents, biological versus adoptive versus guardian parents, etc. I did run into an issue where the sim's first attribute refused to save, but I just added a dummy first attribute and that seems to have gotten around the bug.

tbh any data analyzer will work (even quite primitive spreadsheets, nowadays MS put its AI fingers in every hole imaginable, just type 'family tree' to the Excel's assistant and it will make the scheme for you).

I used to just type simple queries to the MySQL and generate reports dumped to xml which you can visualise in any way you wish. Never got hooked on any 'Family software' personally - they mostly uses too much of resources for not very impressive effect and are too restrictive by design (and developers' presupositions).

Sure, I have a Notion spreadsheet for everything, the whole point is to get a visualization. If I could just visualize the data "any way that I wish" by extracting it from the spreadsheet then I would, but I don't design UIs and don't feel like learning how to solve tricky display issues in my free time. The idea is to find a program that has already solved those issues for me.

did you ever see Bulbizarre's Access database It's a thing of beauty

I have a database. I'm looking for a UI.

Then @kestrellyn I am afraid you are kinda out of luck and doomed to use (proportionally for your needs) half-baked solutions.

Maybe these will have got at least some of your desired functionalities (I have never used them myself):
GPL only:
GenealogyJ https://sourceforge.net/projects/genj/ & its fork: Ancestris (GPL) https://en.ancestris.org/index_pl.html
HuMoGen: https://humogen.com/
GeneoTree: https://www.geneotree.com/index.php?ilang=en&imenu=1
LifeLines: would require some work https://lifelines.sourceforge.net/

For fudge's sake, I did not make it for family tree. It can track family relaitonships, but that's about it.

... but it is a thing of beauty ... truly amazing ... you put a lot of hard work into that ...

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Not necessarily an app, but I made a family free template using the in-game formats and extensive work with screenshotting and MS Paint. For the highest quality photographs I use Greenshot and take them using the TIFF format, and various icon packs to help differentiate or connect members who've married into bigger families. I'll post it here, just in case anyone is interested in taking and using it for themselves.

I use MyHeritage Family Tree Builder - it has easy data entry and makes good looking charts (freeware)